Hayles, N. K. (2000). Theory of a Different Order: A Conversation with Niklas Luhmann and Katherine Hayles. In W. Rasch & C. Wolfe (Eds.), Observing Complexity: Systems Theory and Postmodernity (pp. 111–136). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.

Hayles, N. K. “Theory of a Different Order: A Conversation with Niklas Luhmann and Katherine Hayles.” In Observing Complexity: Systems Theory and Postmodernity, edited by W. Rasch and C. Wolfe, 111–36. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000.

Hayles NK. Theory of a Different Order: A Conversation with Niklas Luhmann and Katherine Hayles. In: Rasch W, Wolfe C, editors. Observing Complexity: Systems Theory and Postmodernity. Chicago: University of Chicago Press; 2000. p. 111–36.

Hayles, N. K. “Theory of a Different Order: A Conversation with Niklas Luhmann and Katherine Hayles.” Observing Complexity: Systems Theory and Postmodernity, edited by W. Rasch and C. Wolfe, University of Chicago Press, 2000, pp. 111–36.

Hayles NK. Theory of a Different Order: A Conversation with Niklas Luhmann and Katherine Hayles. In: Rasch W, Wolfe C, editors. Observing Complexity: Systems Theory and Postmodernity. Chicago: University of Chicago Press; 2000. p. 111–136.